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Post by Tovec on Apr 28, 2006 17:32:04 GMT -5
Ok here's the deal. I'm done fighting. Go ahead and keep stirring up shit Albert, you and Skillet have hurt what I have spent many years of my life working on. You destroy it and deface it for personal gains. I hope its worth it.
I'm still playing don't get me wrong but I'm finished fighting Albert over his ownership of fleets that I have cared so much about. I will soon be making a master list of fleets. It will have all fleets I can get my hands on. They will have information on who founded them, why, when, who lead them and for how long. It won't have how to join them and it won't include Albert's contribution to its history.
Albert I hope that doing what you do makes you happy because it has ruined all memories of those old fleets that I had.
I can look at my list of fleets that I have aspired to get into as a Member. A list of fleets that I would have been happy only ever being a member. One by one Albert has joined these fleets at their highest levels and stayed in them only briefly.
Let me know of any more changes to your fleets Albert. If they are legit I'll add them if not I won't.
I can't believe I have been reduced to this level.
As for KD. In the near future my gun is yours. I'm all for the hurting of Albert and whatever he endevours to do. I've talked to Burton and if need be I'll join your HOPE and fight Albert.
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Post by acealbert on Apr 28, 2006 18:04:59 GMT -5
As for KD. In the near future my gun is yours. I'm all for the hurting of Albert and whatever he endevours to do. I've talked to Burton and if need be I'll join your HOPE and fight Albert. You don't need to be in HOPE to fight me. And Alpha Clan Elite was brought back expressly BECAUSE HOPE came back.
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Post by Gohan on Apr 28, 2006 18:30:11 GMT -5
it still cracks me up how albert takes credit for recruiting over half of my ACE, when he recruited like 95% fake names and 5% people who never agreed to join in the first place.
But yeah anyway, i agree with you toroth, albert is just ruining all these old fleets names, didnt i say that about him joining KOA on the ArA boards six months back or so? or was it sooner than that.
Thats why i took issue with him stealing VIP, hes anything but a vet, hes a baby skillet who dies about 30 times in a row, then sits in a starbase for a week.
But yeah albert, just toss around names all you want. i doubt leonard is as on your side as you proclaim and if he knew what you were going to do to Alpha Clan i doubt he would agree to let you steal the name.
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Post by =OF=Darthan on Apr 28, 2006 18:31:47 GMT -5
albert should join pain but he cant fit there now can he 0_o
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Post by acealbert on Apr 28, 2006 18:59:15 GMT -5
it still cracks me up how albert takes credit for recruiting over half of my ACE, when he recruited like 95% fake names and 5% people who never agreed to join in the first place. But yeah anyway, i agree with you toroth, albert is just ruining all these old fleets names, didnt i say that about him joining KOA on the ArA boards six months back or so? or was it sooner than that. Thats why i took issue with him stealing VIP, hes anything but a vet, hes a baby skillet who dies about 30 times in a row, then sits in a starbase for a week. But yeah albert, just toss around names all you want. i doubt leonard is as on your side as you proclaim and if he knew what you were going to do to Alpha Clan i doubt he would agree to let you steal the name. I'm not stealing the name. That's all I have to say. Oh, except that I don't die '30 times in a row'. I actually have skills now.
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Post by Staker on Apr 28, 2006 22:41:43 GMT -5
HOPE is older than ACE... how can you claim on your site that ACE has been around longer than any other fleets... HOPE lasted longer than ACE... and ACE is ace... not ACE...
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Post by acealbert on Apr 29, 2006 0:03:52 GMT -5
HOPE is older than ACE... how can you claim on your site that ACE has been around longer than any other fleets... HOPE lasted longer than ACE... and ACE is ace... not ACE... Show me where I claimed that.
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Post by Staker on Apr 29, 2006 5:06:00 GMT -5
Hate to burst your bubble but ace wasnt one of the strongest fleets when it was active.
It consisted of 3 players that thought too much of themselves at the time. HOPE, KoA, and DEF were the strongest fleets at those days. DEF for always playing in groups, HOPE for knowing how to make a race weak, and KoA just had the skill.
At the time they weren't veterans, just skilled players. "most skilled veterans ever to fly in Stellar Frontier"
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Post by Staker on Apr 29, 2006 5:07:19 GMT -5
Oh and one more thing... I came here to have a title not to be smited by a stupid asian... I keep getting smited for no reason. Just each time you have the chance... please stop.
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Post by acealbert on Apr 29, 2006 9:33:42 GMT -5
Oh and one more thing... I came here to have a title not to be smited by a stupid asian... I keep getting smited for no reason. Just each time you have the chance... please stop. You stop first. Since you've registered my karma has kept going down whenever you've been logged in.
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Post by Gohan on Apr 29, 2006 19:05:21 GMT -5
I told albert the same thing, where he had it listed that alpha clan was one of the greatest oldest fleets....
It was one of those fun fleets people make to have a fleet, it never had more than four people and albert is making up all this stuff about it because it is the only option left for him after being kicked out of half membership of KOA, and wasn't allowed to take control of HOPE, and was kicked out of DEF (notice a pattern)
Alpha clan is pretty much showing hes trying harder and harder to get attention and look good.
when you've been kicked out by the best, try and steal the rest -Albertwong
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Post by acealbert on Apr 29, 2006 20:46:56 GMT -5
I told albert the same thing, where he had it listed that alpha clan was one of the greatest oldest fleets.... It was one of those fun fleets people make to have a fleet, it never had more than four people and albert is making up all this stuff about it because it is the only option left for him after being kicked out of half membership of KOA, and wasn't allowed to take control of HOPE, and was kicked out of DEF (notice a pattern) Alpha clan is pretty much showing hes trying harder and harder to get attention and look good. when you've been kicked out by the best, try and steal the rest -Albertwong I have witnesses who will testify that Alpha Clan Elite was always on my list of the 'greatest fleets ever'. It is also on Tovec's list of the greatest fleets ever. By no means is it just among 'the rest'. Further DEF and KOA weren't that good either. It was really WD that was good. Ergo, it was WD, then a KOA squad, that helped KOA win that fleet crown. And WD veterans who hadn't played in ages still were able to soundly defeat DEF in battle.
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Post by Screaming_Vulture on Apr 29, 2006 22:37:14 GMT -5
I think that ALL, BoS, GBoF, 777, TOL, SBC, SSJ, and FFF were great fleets too. Actually i listed these fleets to see which one albert would steal next. Actually the fleet that i wanted to join when i started was FFF and 777. But soon after i started playing they disappeared.
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Post by Staker on Apr 30, 2006 1:18:27 GMT -5
Love how he changed his view on KoA. KOA IS A GREAT FLEET.... PLEASE LET ME JOIN!!!... sending and spamming emails for Anaxis, SFServer and pming me... must I go on.
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Post by Staker on Apr 30, 2006 1:19:34 GMT -5
Oh and one more thing... I came here to have a title not to be smited by a stupid asian... I keep getting smited for no reason. Just each time you have the chance... please stop. You stop first. Since you've registered my karma has kept going down whenever you've been logged in. Funny How I did stop... but somehow my karma went down first... and I decided to point my finger at your asian ass... either quit now... or I will leave again and not register because your too imature to grow the fuking up.
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Post by Gohan on Apr 30, 2006 19:02:38 GMT -5
Rofl man.........
fleet crowns mean nothing to me, i actually PLAYED WHEN THOSE FLEETS WERE AROUND. KOA and HOPE are the best fleets, ever, with DEF pulling in a tied third with a few other fleets, alpha clan is nowhere near any of it, and if toroth listed it as a great fleet its because it had a couple of good people in it when he first started, like five years ago.
Alpha clan was a fun fleet for a couple of people, realize it. And it was certainly never greater than KOA (i notice you arent insulting HOPE, you must think you have a chance of stealing it or getting in it after alpha clan fails if you wont insult it now)
The plain fact is you are telling people who played in KOA/HOPE/DEFs days what the fleets were about, when you started a half a decade later and have literally no idea what the hell you are talking about.
And ignore the karma stuff kd, when everyone on ArA forums had pushed albert to -188 or so he started hitting my karma because he said i was the only one responsible. Just like on ACE forums were i had to get rid of karma because everyone was slamming him every day, and just like here. Hes too stupid to realize everyone hates him, and blames a single person.
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Post by Webmaster on May 14, 2006 18:36:03 GMT -5
Rofl man......... fleet crowns mean nothing to me, i actually PLAYED WHEN THOSE FLEETS WERE AROUND. KOA and HOPE are the best fleets, ever, with DEF pulling in a tied third with a few other fleets, alpha clan is nowhere near any of it, and if Tovec listed it as a great fleet its because it had a couple of good people in it when he first started, like five years ago. Alpha clan was a fun fleet for a couple of people, realize it. And it was certainly never greater than KOA (i notice you arent insulting HOPE, you must think you have a chance of stealing it or getting in it after alpha clan fails if you wont insult it now) The plain fact is you are telling people who played in KOA/HOPE/DEFs days what the fleets were about, when you started a half a decade later and have literally no idea what the hell you are talking about. And ignore the karma stuff kd, when everyone on ArA forums had pushed albert to -188 or so he started hitting my karma because he said i was the only one responsible. Just like on ACE forums were i had to get rid of karma because everyone was slamming him every day, and just like here. Hes too stupid to realize everyone hates him, and blames a single person. KOA was just never really active. Although it was a great fleet. I don't know too much about HOPE as that was too much before my time. But from what I hear it isn't all positive either. May I ask what those other fleets that tied with DEF are? I would assume that ZF, STORM, and WD are in there. Although I don't necessarily agree about KOA being better than DEF. DEF has, or rather, had, the most skilled players.
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Post by Gohan on May 14, 2006 20:48:36 GMT -5
I mostly get into arguments like this over alberts nonsense making claims that wouldnt even have factual basis even if he had played five years before he started.
The simple fact that due to inexperience people are placing KOA and DEF head to head, when KOA predates and had its peak long before DEF came about.
The fleet history is a bit shaky and hard for anyone to lay in stone, KOA and HOPE were among the first fleets (Marty's TO was there as well since i flew with u2 and marty in KOA/TO teamups)
The problem is, alot of the rumours and heresay now dont equal out in the end. I remember anaxis, silence, u2, HHH and others owning everyone in KOA. HOPE had neil, obliterator, u2 and others and were just established as THE fleet. I left for awhile and in that time DEF sprung up with alot of other fleets.
After fleets turned out to be so cool, around 2002 people just started cranking them out one right after another and it got hard to keep track.
The history can get distorted (like Alpha Clan being considered one of the greatest fleets ever when it was nothing at all) And when someone who is new to the game tries to argue with someone who is trying to remember back 6-7 years, it just gets distorted even more.
I try to make my final basis off the timeline i remember. KOA and HOPE before DEF, then from there since it seems a core group of people cycle from fleet to fleet occassionally mixing it up, like people being in VIP And EDGE fighting eachother but being in my ACE or ArA later, or OE being in ACE or TO being in ACE or KOA being in EDGE or DEF being in EDGE or any number of combinations.
The gene pool is so cloudy we could argue unto eternity on who did what and what we heard or remember.
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Post by Gohan on May 14, 2006 20:51:20 GMT -5
Sorry, "u2" rhymes with "Trueblue" who i was going to name.
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Post by Staker on May 15, 2006 2:55:55 GMT -5
TB was an awesome player. In fact I still remember the FW where HOPE actually owned players... HOPE knew how to handle business. KoA were just modders... not really fighters... only like 4-5 players who were new to koa were the actual fighters in that FW... Anaxis went mad in recruiting players. KoA was awesome in helping for mods, errors, and other stuff in the game... but their skills in fighting were normal. Not very good tactics.
DEF came along later on... alliance with RUSH and WD... all Drengin, They did have their fame as team players... they fought in groups and hard to find in lag fights.
TO was an ok fleet... not the best at the time... but their was other fleets like Killa's fleet forgot the name... POF was a 2 player fleet along with BoS. All along to see the greatest fleets... all of the fleets were awesome... All have had their up's and downs... but majority KOA, HOPE, DEF, ZF, Rush, Edge, and finally VIP have been victorious in FW's.
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