yanw ill just post it here since i don't want you on my forum
am going to Restart HOPE... why...
Hey Albert,
I first want to compliment you and say to you that you have an
interresting
view and some vision! However, the name HOPE as in 'Hope Of Players
Everywhere' does have the same tag as 'Hope Of People Everywhere'. As I
transferred leadership to K/D he has to decide if he wants to allow
this or
not, please understand that it would be unfair if I would make these
decisions in his place after transferring the leadership to him.
Suppose that K/D wants to restart HOPE he would not be able to do so if
there was another band or group of players using the HOPE tag, even
when its
meaning is different.
Even if he puts the HOPE name on hold and is not restarting HOPE you
should
ask his permission.
I'm sure you understand that I cannot make any decisions in K/D's
place.
Tnx for mailing!
Kind regards,
Jonathan aka The Obliterator
Retired fleet leader of HOPE
>From: Albert Wong <albertwong2004@yahoo.com>
>To: Jonathan Veldhuis <the_obliterator@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Proposal regarding HOPE
>Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2006 10:46:01 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Hi Jonathan,
>
>Thanks for the reply and the best wishes. I might talk to K/D about
that
>proposal when I see him again. I was actually thinking that my
proposal
>isn't feasible anyway because if K/D were to approve it then it
wouldn't
>really be 'Hope of People Everywhere' anyway, because it wouldn't be
>actively led or managed by you.
>
>What if we instead just renamed VIP to function as a tribute/memorial
fleet
>to HOPE to commemorate HOPE's legacy of excellence? i.e. maybe rename
VIP
>as 'Hope of Players Everywhere' (as opposed to Hope of People
Everywhere)
>with a note saying that 1) This is not the original HOPE; 2) This is
not
>led by The Obliterator; 3) This is not an exclusively Terran fleet
unlike
>the original HOPE; 4) The name is meant to be a tribute to HOPE's
legacy
>and will hopefully help continue the association of the name of HOPE
with
>excellence in SF. Would there be an objection to that?
>
>Let me know what you think. Thanks in advance.
>
>Regards,
>Albert
>
>Jonathan Veldhuis <the_obliterator@hotmail.com> wrote: Hey Albert,
>
>I've handed over leadership to K/D so I cannot make these decisions.
>I would advise you to talk with K/D as soon you see him online,
knowing him
>he will be active again if he gets his pc fixed.
>
>Good luck with your plans.
>
>Regards,
>Jonathan
>
>
> >From: Albert Wong
> >To: Jonathan Veldhuis
> >Subject: Proposal regarding HOPE
> >Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2006 12:33:24 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >Hi Jonathan,
> >
> >As I mentioned in my earlier message, I am in VIP currently. As a
matter
>of
> >fact I am officially the 'leader' of the fleet but the reason I
asked
>about
> >HOPE is because: the members of my fleet are all veterans
>(Captain__Morgan,
> >Maell, Joker76, My_Name, Skillet) that are quite independent-minded
and
> >don't really like to follow or really take part in a traditional
fleet
> >hierarchy. So officially I am the leader but actually there is no
real
> >leader. So I was thinking whether it would be possible to merge VIP
into
> >HOPE and make all VIP members equal as basic 'HOPE members'.
> >
> >That really wouldn't be a traditional fleet - more like an organized
>group
> >of vets setting a good example and a high standard of skill and
>dedication
> >for the rest of SF. Although this could technically be done with any
>fleet
> >- e.g., I could do this with VIP - the HOPE name and reputation will
be
> >helpful because 1) it would help distinguish this fleet (from other
> >start-ups) as an elite and highly skilled fleet, 2) it would draw
>attention
> >to the purpose and goal of this fleet, helping us achieve our goal
of
> >helping SF through setting a good example for other players, and 3)
it
> >would serve to recognize and reward the members for their skill and
> >dedication. I really think this move has the potential to be a good
move
> >for SF.
> >
> >Under what I'm currently thinking, no one would have power to
recruit
> >additional members. So all you would need to do is approve the
current
>VIP
> >members to be HOPE members and there would not be any
future/additional
> >recruits to the fleet that you would have to consider for approval.
Also
>no
> >one would actually be in charge of it. For example you are not in SF
> >anymore and K/D, when he is in SF, is a Viscount in KOA so he
wouldn't be
> >able to manage this anyway. All members would have of course to
adhere to
> >any policies HOPE may have had and if they didn't they would be
dismissed
> >from the fleet. Naturally you would still retain full rights to HOPE
and
> >would be the leader of the fleet if you were to choose to return to
SF.
>I'm
> >sure that all current VIP members would be happy with this
arrangement.
>So
> >that's why I'm asking you if you think that would be possible.
> >
> >I have also been trying to get in touch with Killer/Die, but he's
not
> >really been active in Stellar Frontier for quite some time - at
least a
>few
> >months, and he's always played occasionally since I met him anyway
- and
> >he hasn't replied to the e-mail I sent him, probably because as I
hear
>his
> >computer died. So I think it may be easier if we could just discuss
this
> >proposal between the two of us. If not, is there any other former
> >high-ranking HOPE member that I could try and contact?
> >
> >In any case - let me know what you think. Thanks a lot for reading
this
> >long message.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >Albert
> >
> >Jonathan Veldhuis wrote: Your welcome, give
> >him my regards.
> >
> >Jonathan
> >
> >
> > >From: Albert Wong
> > >To: Jonathan Veldhuis
> > >Subject: RE: HOPE
> > >Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2006 13:50:39 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >Ah, thanks. I'll be in touch with him.
> > >
> > >Jonathan Veldhuis wrote: Thats Killer/die,
> > >one of my old players.
> > >
> > >Jonathan
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Albert Wong
> > > >To: Jonathan Veldhuis
> > > >Subject: RE: HOPE
> > > >Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:13:41 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >Hey Jonathan,
> > > >
> > > >Thanks. Who's elixir_egs98@sbcglobal.net? (i.e., what's the SF
>username
> > >of
> > > >that person) Please let me know.
> > > >
> > > >Thanks again
> > > >
> > > >Albert
> > > >
> > > >Jonathan Veldhuis wrote: Hey Albert,
> > > >
> > > >Mail: elixir_egs98@sbcglobal.net for signups.
> > > >
> > > >I'm not officially in charge of HOPE anymore since I am inactive
and
> >not
> > > >taking part of the SF community in any way at the moment.
> > > >
> > > >Regards,
> > > >Jonathan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: Albert Wong
> > > > >To: Jonathan Veldhuis
> > > > >Subject: HOPE
> > > > >Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 16:06:46 -0700 (PDT)
> > > > >
> > > > >Hey Obliterator,
> > > > >
> > > > >I'd like to apply to join the Stellar Frontier chapter of
HOPE. I
> >have
> > > > >played Stellar Frontier for over a year and have been in
various
> > >fleets,
> > > > >including Storm Force, which recently disbanded its Stellar
>Frontier
> > > > >chapter. (I also lead the Storm Force Continuum chapter.) My
>highest
> > > >ranked
> > > > >character is an Emperor on the SFDC nexus. On the Stardock
nexi I
> >have
> > >a
> > > > >Fleet Admiral and an Admiral (along with a host of other
>lower-ranked
> > > > >characters). I am currently in VIP but was wondering if it
would be
> > > > >possible to join HOPE. I know that HOPE is inactive but I was
> >wondering
> > > >if
> > > > >it could still be possible to join it. (I know that normally
HOPE
>is
> >by
> > > > >invitation only - I think - but then this is not a normal time
for
>SF
> > >or
> > > > >HOPE.) There are just no good fleets in SF anymore. Perhaps I
could
> > >help
> > > > >organize/co-manage a small HOPE presence in Stellar Frontier.
e.g.,
> >I'd
> > > > >manage a small HOPE presence in SF and do the nitty-gritty
things;
> > >you'd
> > > > >still be in overall charge of HOPE and only you
> > > > > would be able to approve new members and/or tell me who to
>invite.
> > > > >
> > > > >Let me know if you need any other information and let me know
what
> >you
> > > > >think. I haven't seen you on MSN lately so this is why I'm
>e-mailing
> > >you.
> > > > >Looking forward to hearing from you. Again my MSN Messenger
e-mail
> > > >address
> > > > >is albertwong2004@yahoo.com
> > > > >
> > > > >Sincerely,
> > > > >Flt.Adm. AlbertWong
> > > > >Emperor ACE_Albert
> > > > >Adm. AlbertW
> > > > >Veterans in Play
> > > > >Leader of Storm Force Continuum
> > > > >
> > > > >Jonathan Veldhuis wrote: Hi there
> > > > >Albert!
> > > > > Well to give you some info about HOPE, I'm not planning to
get
> >back
> > >to
> > > > >lead/rebuild the fleet.
> > > > >The chance that I will play SF(or any game) varies from pretty
slim
> >to
> > > > >'non-existant'.
> > > > >
> > > > >You are free to use the name for your continuum squad as
Nathan
>Allan
> > >or
> > > >me
> > > > >never had anything to do with HOPE in continuum. (or subspace)
> > > > >Also you have my permission to make a 'tribute to HOPE' forum
for
> >HOPE.
> > > > >However I'm not going to be there to checkup on the info. So
in no
> >way
> > > >the
> > > > >info on that site can't be branded as 'genuine history' of
HOPE and
> > >such.
> > > > >
> > > > >It's interresting to know that HOPE started out as a Pirate
fleet.
>(I
> > > > >forgot the founders nick)
> > > > >Later on it went Terran and HOPE got an 'antifleet' which was
>called
> > >EOH.
> > > > >(End Of HOPE)
> > > > >Now don't ask me anything about several specific members or
> > >membercount,
> > > >I
> > > > >can't remember that anymore. I've joined HOPE somewhere in
1999 or
> >so.
> > > > >
> > > > >As for aim, I haven't used that for years anymore.
> > > > > Kind regards,
> > > > >Jonathan V
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >---------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >From: Albert Wong
> > > > >To: the_obliterator@hotmail.com
> > > > >Subject: HOPE and Continuum
> > > > >Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 10:32:19 -0800 (PST)
> > > > > >Hello Obliterator,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >My Stellar Frontier usernames are Flt.Adm. AlbertWong
> > > > > >and Adm. AlbertW and I met you briefly some time ago
> > > > > >in Sirius when you were designing a new skin for
> > > > > >Stellar Frontier (which you later posted on KOA
> > > > > >forums). I am currently in Storm Force (STORM) as the
> > > > > >Squad Leader but got your e-mail address from a KOA
> > > > > >member since I wanted to contact you regarding HOPE.
> > > > > >HOPE is one of the great old fleets in SF (one of the
> > > > > >5 best - HOPE, KOA, DEF, STORM, ZF) and I was
> > > > > >wondering if there was any chance of HOPE returning to
> > > > > >SF. STORM, DEF, and KOA are having varying levels of
> > > > > >activity in SF and Caveman might bring ZF back so it
> > > > > >would be great if HOPE were to come back too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >As you may know, STORM is active in many games besides
> > > > > >Stellar Frontier. One of these games is Continuum. I
> > > > > >founded a Storm Force chapter there some time ago when
> > > > > >I started playing Continuum and currently lead it.
> > > > > >Storm Force, Continuum, however, overall, is a rather
> > > > > >n00bish fleet in Continuum in terms of playing skills.
> > > > > >It does however have a few good players (including
> > > > > >myself and a few other original members). I am
> > > > > >thinking about dividing Storm Force, Continuum into
> > > > > >two branches - a normal branch and a small elite
> > > > > >branch. I would turn over leadership of the normal
> > > > > >branch to someone qualified to lead it, and I would
> > > > > >lead the small, but highly elite, branch.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >The reason I am telling you all this is I want to ask
> > > > > >you for permission to make this elite branch the HOPE
> > > > > >chapter in Continuum, in honor of HOPE's reputation in
> > > > > >Stellar Frontier and also to keep HOPE alive in some
> > > > > >way, albeit in another game. Please let me know your
> > > > > >thoughts on this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Finally I was wondering if I could have your
> > > > > >permission to make a small forum or website in tribute
> > > > > >to HOPE, so that future Stellar Frontier players can
> > > > > >learn of and remember HOPE. Please also let me know
> > > > > >what you think of this.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Many thanks for reading this long e-mail. I'm looking
> > > > > >forward to hearing from you soon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Have a great day!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Sincerely,
> > > > > >AlbertWong
> > > > > >
> > > > > >PS - Do you have a AIM address? If so please give it
> > > > > >to me as I would love to chat with you on AIM some
> > > > > >time. My AIM is AlbertWongSF.
