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Post by Tovec on Nov 3, 2005 18:07:54 GMT -5
All fleets need numbers to get new blood into a fleet in order to keep it going. Hell SIN included. Difference is that Exclusive fleets are supposed to be less we want newbies. Problem lies in that there are so many pilots in SF and of those only so many will join your cause. SIN has only had 1 possible recruit and during the course of his initiation he was rejected.
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Post by Burton1 on Nov 3, 2005 18:48:45 GMT -5
Yea, wish our former recrutie would have pulled through but you wont get in when u lame, team kill, boat ect. I really dont like the term vet because i couldnt care if someone has played in SF for 3+ years (my oppinion of course).
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Post by albertwong on Nov 3, 2005 20:01:14 GMT -5
What's wrong with the term vet?
Sure, there are people who have played for 3 years who aren't considered vets. There are people who have been considered vets after one year of playing. The average is 2 years. It has to do with total time spent playing SF as much as it has to do with playing skills and Stellar Frontier knowledge (and I don't mean the basic knowledge of how to blockade, fire, refit, etc. - I mean the knowledge of all the useful 'little things').
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Post by dukename on Nov 3, 2005 20:48:18 GMT -5
There is more knowledge then the lil things... Fleet Hopper... We aren't thinking alike... U are just agreeing with me... The term Vet is given to those who have a lot of respect... not by the community of sf but by the players who acknowledge them.
In fact SF has endless of knowledge players need to learn... and I don't mean bugs... I have noticed everything is a bug to these fuking players... omg! look a crew bug... resycn first before you acknowledge the bug. Same goes when you see g1's... Who cares if they got 9k in a mar... the player could of been an sb before he turned into a mar...
I mean lag, practicing how to kill another player not just whining everysingle shltty day about the bug you think the player has... boost bug isnt a bug... its in the game and is meant to be used. Boost bugging is when you aren't shooting anything and continually going at that speed of .90c in a mar. That is boost bugging...
That is how Fleet Hopper and Mars are still noobs to me. Acheiving rank does not mean anything at all. Hell they can lie to the dev and ask for a flt. adm. change.
Its the skills and how much respect they got... What I wrote in VIP isn't considered a VET its really just how to get into VIP... Fleet Hopper...
-killer, die
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Post by albertwong on Nov 4, 2005 0:44:04 GMT -5
I'm not agreeing with you, Mister Viscount, YOU are agreeing with ME. Supposedly I took your words right out of your mouth. I said them first and YOU agreed with ME not the other way around.
Yours truly,
Veteran AlbertWong
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Post by dukename on Nov 4, 2005 2:42:17 GMT -5
Ugh... Look what you did Tovec... you made a noob look like a vet... idiot... /me smacks the shlt out of Tovec
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Post by Guest Mars on Nov 4, 2005 3:11:14 GMT -5
first as was pointed out i havent been there since .75 but i have been around over 3 1/2 years and the oe is that old, everyone things i started the oe but i did not it was lauracroft, myself, renegade721, and hooters who left the foa over a vote that spaceman1 punished us over. Tovec your overall understanding of the game is impressive and i respect you as a vet also but the term vet is relative since many folk love me quite well, and others hate me even more. at least when no one would do a thing to end the cheats on sf our fleet at least did somthing, maby the tatict to level the feild was wrong but it was action were opposed there was none. the OE will resume the war with edge in a live stats server as soon as sf server gets the bugs out of it and will be hosted agian this week some time.
we will continue to pound edge, and repent of our teachings if we win the war as most of the more chatoic elements will be frowned upon in edge having lost the war makes for such a unpopular fleet i hear.
i belive that Tovec is right it is the word vet ..i have noticed that sf is like and closely mirrors pro wrestling were one week your good and then next your evil and bad. i dont mind being hated .. but in the ring im not the best either but i alway come out 100 percent after you and give you all i have. i also respect that from players that do... i dont always agree with kd he doesent think i smell so good, ok, but when i agree with him its different cause hes always right ... right? vet is really devotion... i am devoted to sf hell or high water.
if you want that tital then you must also make a mark .. either good or bad deep or strate thru that lets others know you come with loaded guns and dont play but to play.
Tovec and others that argue that someone has morals that differ with the main stream of things get a cheater tag or call them a lamer fleet.. well look what fleet has been around this long and won 2 wars and working on 3 managed by folk that are doing at least one thing right ... being freaking ... devoted...
take that up the vet and enjoy it.
Mars council member of the Outcast
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Post by dukename on Nov 4, 2005 14:39:03 GMT -5
Mars you've been on and off this SF thing...
OE has been destroyed and you brought it back out... don't know why. OE isnt the cleanest fleet ever because it recruit's noob's and the next week they know all the bugs. I can name all the players who are like this. So this is why I still consider you a noob. -First you tell others about the bugs and how to do em. -Second you scr3w up soooo much you don't even know it. -Third orbiting a planet and firing with an sb isnt a skill. -Fourth scr3wing with your lag is not really cool. -Sixth I still consider ring to be a complete noob, believe it or not. -And finally, I don't remember OE being here that long. If it was then hmm... I was a noob in HOPE while OE was brought up... I doubt that... I was a senior officer a whole year after being in HOPE so... lets see OE has really been around for 1-2 years not 3 1/2 :-\ I have a bad memory but not that bad...
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Post by Guest Mars on Nov 4, 2005 16:20:39 GMT -5
first off kd, it was exact 3 1/2 years since i was in the foa .. second get your brain fixed, third since you say everyone is a noobie but you then you also have declared yourself the only judge, when i was replying to Tovec and not you. you assume way to much, and fill in the gaps with your holyer than thou self, sir im not holy, im not even that good, but ive done with weve done with great plan, and if you judge everyone equally with out regard to heart then you have no business being anyones judge. the word "vet" applies to them that dont bitch, and have dedication to the game regardless of view, regardless of path, regardless of outcome, being here to futher objectives that many agree with. and since always there will be difference of views as it takes more than one to tango, i would expect such bogus comments from you to make us look even more noobish. not only has it been that long the OE has never disbanded or has never been beaten or absorbed. us 4 have been the rock of the OE taking turns and causing many great pain or else why the ..... bitch kd.
if things dont bother you then why the fuss. lol.. i see this as a worthless attempt to make us look silly while we have never done squat but send kudos to kd for some of the things hes done for sf and us. even agianst his own core beliefs ... that to me is a vet ..so sure kd your a vet you have dedication , but you lack the ablility to quit forcasting your moves, and whining when things dont go your way, it sounds like skillet has a rope around your neck or somthin. we aint uptight man, in fact were down right cool, many players will thank us for helping them be albe to withstand and stay in the 2 d game because now thay have defence agiants and are aware of the ablitys to use bugs. nothing in this world is perfect man. if you judge me to be your mistaken also. but if whining about our fleet makes you happy i send you more kudos. here... kudo...
Mars
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Post by dukename on Nov 4, 2005 21:12:04 GMT -5
I am not whining... pointing out my view on you. I'm not close to whining about you; Yes your fleet hasn't done anything to me... but the fact that OE knows bugs and using them doesn't change the fact that I think your a noob. I hate players who let new players know about bugs... if we are trying to stop the bug why tell everyone about it... as soon as they leave OE they use the fuking bugs... how bout u stop telling everyone how to use the bugs... THAT IS MY PROBLEM WITH OE RIGHT NOW... fuk don't you get it Mars I don't give a didly squat about kudos or thank you... I hate bugs, I know them all... only thing is I don't tell everyone how to use em or even use the bugs myself.
Albert is a noob get over it... announcing your a vet makes you look like an idiot in the server.
Mars stop telling everyone about the bugs and maybe I'll give you more respect.
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Post by dukename on Nov 4, 2005 21:13:29 GMT -5
OE was destroyed by the first War EDGE had against you.
They won and you guys left hid for a few months and then brought it back when EDGE was no more.
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Post by albertwong on Nov 4, 2005 23:16:51 GMT -5
Mars, you said it yourself before, OE is the most hated and least respected fleet in SF and you guys are proud of it. Now then why did you continually kick me from your server when I told the former second-in-command of Zepler Fleet that OE was the least respected fleet in SF? Honestly Mars there is no fleet in SF that I can think of which is less respected than OE is.
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Post by PsikoMantis on Nov 5, 2005 1:46:25 GMT -5
I've been playing longer then both Mars and Albert and i'm still considered to be a noobie.
And Edge did crush OE. Mars just waited for everyone in EDGE to move on to better things, then he showed up again with his fleet. I mean Mars is around all the time now but back in the EDGE war he was MIA for like 4 months or so. And the person who was left in charge of OE at that time, who was JP did surrender to EDGE.
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Post by dukename on Nov 5, 2005 4:58:30 GMT -5
Your not a noob! Your a noober! Join the Noober club only Vets can join this exclusive club.
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Post by dukename on Nov 5, 2005 5:00:31 GMT -5
first off kd, it was exact 3 1/2 years since i was in the foa .. second get your brain fixed, third since you say everyone is a noobie but you then you also have declared yourself the only judge, when i was replying to Tovec and not you. you assume way to much, and fill in the gaps with your holyer than thou self, sir im not holy, im not even that good, but ive done with weve done with great plan, and if you judge everyone equally with out regard to heart then you have no business being anyones judge. the word "vet" applies to them that dont pregnant dog, and have dedication to the game regardless of view, regardless of path, regardless of outcome, being here to futher objectives that many agree with. and since always there will be difference of views as it takes more than one to tango, i would expect such bogus comments from you to make us look even more noobish. not only has it been that long the OE has never disbanded or has never been beaten or absorbed. us 4 have been the rock of the OE taking turns and causing many great pain or else why the ..... pregnant dog kd. if things dont bother you then why the fuss. lol.. i see this as a worthless attempt to make us look silly while we have never done squat but send kudos to kd for some of the things hes done for sf and us. even agianst his own core beliefs ... that to me is a vet ..so sure kd your a vet you have dedication , but you lack the ablility to quit forcasting your moves, and whining when things dont go your way, it sounds like skillet has a rope around your neck or somthin. we aint uptight man, in fact were down right cool, many players will thank us for helping them be albe to withstand and stay in the 2 d game because now thay have defence agiants and are aware of the ablitys to use bugs. nothing in this world is perfect man. if you judge me to be your mistaken also. but if whining about our fleet makes you happy i send you more kudos. here... kudo... Mars I haven't declared everyone a noobie. I declared my self the king of noobs... I don't judge, I just say my opinion and love to close the end of the story.
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Post by albertwong on Nov 5, 2005 10:55:36 GMT -5
I don't judge, I just say my opinion and love to close the end of the story. Mr. Viscount, "saying your opinion and ending the story" *is* judging, whether you like it or not. Also stop smiting me unless you want this to turn into a smiting war.
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Post by Tovec on Nov 5, 2005 12:55:33 GMT -5
*giggles like a 10 year old school girl* Smiting war..
Hate to say it but Albert is right.
On a side note. Who do you consider a vet, Duke?
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Post by dukename on Nov 5, 2005 16:21:51 GMT -5
Who says I am smithing, you idiot.
And its not judging, Judging players is very different in SF Fleet Hopper. I don't judge, I say it but usually I am laughing my @ss off at home. God you are an idiot. The way I see it, its all in the players mind, if you psych them out; they start believing that they don't have skills, apparently it doesn't work with a few players. Oops I Said Too Much. And you call yourself a vet :? Wow... I expect this from Skillet's mouth not from a "vet"
Tovec, you already know what I consider a vet, and I am not a vet. I might be like 8 years playing this game but I still haven't figure out a few things in modding stuff. I have said it in earlier posts... I hope you can find it... because I noticed that Albert keeps all the arguements away from ArA forums when it comes to leave a message for me.
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Post by albertwong on Nov 6, 2005 9:51:27 GMT -5
LOL yeah so you are psyching players out eh.
How do I know you are smiting? Every time you visit my karma drops by 2, and no one else here has the motivation to keep smiting me the way you do. FYI every time *I* visit I find my karma lowered by 2 so I smite you twice. C'este la vie.
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Post by Tovec on Nov 6, 2005 13:29:30 GMT -5
See Albert that would be a good idea if you knew that Duke was the only one smiting you. Do you? Duke has already said that you are paranoid. I am checking to make sure that no one is modifying your profile to lower your karma. After that it is all you.
Also about this vet business. I have said that, Duke, your standard may be too high but I don't care about it either way. Albert it is like being 'the One', which is just like being in love or being cool; No one can tel you you are [insert state here], you just know it balls to bones. So just wait it out. I am not a vet yet and I got more skill, respect, knowledge, and time in SF! Chill and just wait!
See I am saying that, Albert, you are not a vet. I am saying that Mars and Skillet are. They may be cheaters (buggers, lamers, etc.) but they are still vets.
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